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This page contains answers to common questions along with some tips and tricks that we have found useful and presented here as questions.
 How much does it cost? Pricing and Policy.

 

bullet FAA Practical Test Fee:   $350
bullet FAA Re-Test Fee:             $350
bullet Resumption after discontinuance: $100 to $200
bullet Unable to test due to flight time deficit, logbook problems, application or ID problems:   $175
bullet Delay due to unfinished paperwork, missing ID, documents, or application: $50 each hour.

 

Over the years the price of everything has risen. When I started conducting practical tests in 1999, my fee was $150. I charged half price for re-tests and nothing for discontinuances. Eventually I raised my price to $200 and when I started flying all over the district, I raised the price to $250 where it stayed for quite some time. In 2005 the price went to $300 and in 2008 to $350 where it is now. Here is how the fee is charged:

When we meet on the day of the test, the first task in front of us is to determine that we have all the required components for the test. These include the required and properly logged flight experience and the correct endorsements from an authorized flight instructor. Final Test Preparation Advisory Circular on Endorsements, We also have to see a valid photo ID issued by a government (with signature), written test results, and a properly filled out IACRA application. When all has been verified, I will give a short pre-test briefing. After asking for questions, I will collect my fee and write a receipt. Cash or check is OK.

In the case where an applicant does not meet the required flight experience for the test, or there is some other deficit in documentation that we are unable to correct in order to start the test, I will not collect my testing fee. Instead, I will collect a fee of $175 for consultation and assistance.

In the case where the test is delayed by more than 45 minutes in order for the applicant to retrieve paperwork, ID, flight plan, money, or whatever, I will charge $50 and an additional $50 for each additional hour it takes to fix the application or whatever. The question does come up, "Well Charlie, what if you are late? If I am late because I overslept, forgot the appointment, or some other illegitimate reason, I will credit $50 per hour for each hour I am late. If I am late due to weather delays, delays due to my previous appointment running long, or other normal test related problems, I will not credit the applicant for the delay. This surcharge is used only when I have to wait or work, for errors to be resolved in order to start the test, and this delay lasts at least 45 minutes.

In the case where the test is discontinued for a legitimate weather reason, an un-airworthy airplane, or a sick applicant, I will charge $100 to return on a different day to complete the test. Crosswinds that are within the demonstrated crosswind component of the testing aircraft are not considered a legitimate weather reason for discontinuance. The above fee will be charged if I am able to finish the test on a day where I am conducting other tests in the area. If not, the fee will be $200 if I return to only finish the discontinued test.

In the case where a test is unsatisfactory and some or all areas of operation must be repeated, I will charge a full fee of $350 for the re-test.  Earlier I mentioned that I used to charge half price for re-tests. I did this because often the re-test takes less time, and I wanted to be fair to the applicant. Unfortunately after years of this policy, I determined that several unintended negative consequences can and do result.  

Flying is fun, but it is also very serious business. Applicants should approach a practical test with enough preparation so that they and their instructors are highly confident that the test will end successfully. Most of the time, this will yield a positive outcome on any practical test. There are few guarantees in life and it is impossible to be 100% sure of passing a fair test. The guarantee I make though, is that I do everything possible to keep the applicant relaxed and focused. I start every test expecting to see a positive result. I do what I can to give an applicant the benefit of the doubt in cases where disconnects occur. If a test is unsuccessful, I will spend all the time necessary to help the student and the instructor develop a plan for success, if such input is desired.

I understand some people do disagree with a full price re-test policy. I feel that such a policy supports quality training, quality examining, and the production of better and safer pilots. 

Feel free to call me or email me with questions or concerns on the above. pc12charlie@yahoo.com 956-793-9376 or 210-861-7355

 What about the check ride, Etc ?

QUESTION: What is best, training under Part 141 in an FAA approved flight school, or under Part 61 with an independent instructor. Also can you recommend a good school or instructor?

ANSWER: You can find both good and bad flight training at a 141 approved flight school and also at a part 61 school or with an independent instructor. Under part 141 a student can complete training programs in less flight time (in theory) and this may result in a cost savings especially for instrument and commercial training.

No, we are not allowed to recommend specific schools or instructors. There are certainly many variables that can affect the outcome of a flight training program, however one thing stands out that seems important to mention. In my opinion, the one absolutely required element in any successful flight training program besides a committed and interested student, is an instructor who knows how, and is willing and able to take co-responsibility with his student to get the job done. In other words, the instructor must "take ownership" of the task of teaching the student what he or she needs to learn to be a safe pilot, and also what he or she needs to learn to pass the checkride. This instructor will prepare every detail along the way to ensure that success is the likely outcome. This is not to say that the student has no role in the process. it is certainly an equal partnership between the student and the instructor. Neither will succeed without the full commitment of the other.

With this "committed instructor" a successful and efficient training program is possible anywhere from the most basic operation that may be held together with good will and safety wire, to the most advanced and well organized school with new paint on the airplanes and a large advertisement in a national magazine. Conversely, without the "committed instructor", the training program will probably suffer at either operation. When providing flight instruction, I always brief my students that it was their responsibility to bring to my attention any problems or deficiencies that they perceive in the training, and to fire me and find a different instructor if I am unable to correct any difficulties that might arise.

 One other thing that I will mention, at the risk of offending some fine flight training institutions. I am a fan of "pay as you go" training. Without going into any gruesome details, I would urge any student pilot to be careful when committing large sums of money in advance for training. Verify just as you would when entering into any contractual agreement, what you are paying, what you get, and what happens if unforeseen things happen. There are reputable schools that offer more aggressively priced programs based on a pay in advance option. It is in your best interest to carefully verify all details before depositing money.

To summarize; First, the most important element in a successful flight training program is a committed instructor (not to imply institutionalized), and secondly schools that require large sums of money up front deserve careful scrutiny before signing on the dotted line.

QUESTION: I am really nervous about my checkride. Is this normal?

ANSWER: Yes! A practical test (as it is properly called) is a unique event in the lives of most people; most people are apprehensive to say the least. This type of testing is different than those tests that we all took in High School or college, because it is performance testing. Being required to perform a skill and to demonstration knowledge on demand to minimum tolerances is enough to make anybody nervous.

QUESTION: What is the best way to "get over" this nervous feeling before a checkride.

ANSWER: To some extent everyone will be nervous before a checkride. Even airline captains that take checkrides every six months are often nervous. Some people get testing anxiety to the point that it really can hurt their performance on the test. My recommendation to very nervous testers is to "over prepare" for the test. Take a little more time and root out every topic and question that may be asked. The examiner might only cover a fraction of what you know, but the solid foundation that is built by really knowing the required topics thoroughly will carry you through the checkride jitters better than anything else I know of.

QUESTION: Are all examiners the same in their testing methods? Are some examiners stricter than others?

ANSWER; Pilot examiners, and FAA inspectors for that matter, are all people, and as a result we all do things slightly differently. The practical test standard for the test you are going to take lists all the required areas and tasks that the examiner must cover. When a test is required, A legal pilot certificate can only result from the successful completion of a legal (i.e. complete) Checkride. To accomplish a legal checkride, the examiner must test all the required tasks.

However, examiners are individuals, and we all have different personalities, so exactly how we test the required tasks may differ some, but not much. If an applicant is well prepared he or she should have no trouble with any examiner. Sometimes an examiner will have a run of bad luck and be required to issue several notices of disapproval (pink slips) over a short time. As a result applicants and instructors may become wary of this examiner. I have seen this cycle of examiners falling in and out of favor at different schools and it is natural. As I said earlier no well prepared applicant should fear any particular examiner.

QUESTION: Will there be shouting during my checkride? A friend told me that his examiner yelled a lot during the test.

ANSWER: I understand this question because during my private pilot checkride it seemed like my examiner yelled at me for about two hours. In fact it may have been my nerves that caused me to feel this way. The perceptions of the applicant are not always the perceptions of the examiner. That said, no it is not appropriate for the examiner to raise his or her voice during the normal course of testing. In fact, it is my view that the examiner should not indulge in any emotional outbursts, either positive or negative.

QUESTION: I am sure that during my checkride I was failed unfairly. I made a small mistake and for this alone I was failed. I told the examiner that I thought this was unfair, but he still failed me. Do I have any recourse?

ANSWER: First of all, regardless of how you feel about why you failed your checkride, probably the fastest way to put this behind you will be to get the required training and re-test the maneuver. You can even do this with another examiner if you think that you were treated unfairly. Secondly, if you feel that you have a well founded grievance about your examiner and the way that you were tested, you should contact the FAA Flight Standards District office that has jurisdiction in your area, and speak to an inspector about the situation. You should also write a letter to the same office documenting everything that you can remember concerning the test and the objectionable behavior. This won't get you your pilot certificate but it is important if you feel like you have been treated unfairly.

QUESTION: What is that funny looking airplane that you fly? How do you take off with the nose on the ground like that?

ANSWER: Yes, my airplane has been called almost everything, funny, silly, cool, which way does it go etc. It is called a Long-EZ. It is Burt Rutan’s follow up design to the VariEZE an example of which I owned before. I now fly, N97EZ a long-EZ. Both airplanes are a Canard design and are built of composite materials using moldless composite construction techniques that Rutan pioneered. It is a homebuilt experimental airplane built by a great guy named Joe Lacour. These airplanes are very efficient, low drag designs. The nose gear is retractable and we also retract it for parking due to the extreme aft CG the airplane has without a pilot in the front seat. It is a two place airplane and is approved for IFR operations. It goes quite fast on not too much avgas, so it makes very efficient transport for me to fly around the district to conduct checkrides. My wife and I also travel far away in N97EZ every chance we get. If you would like to learn more about these great airplanes, check out a few websites: www.ez.org and www.glassovercast.com.

QUESTION: My instructor says that I am ready for my checkride, but i am not sure he is right. How can I make sure that I am really ready?

ANSWER: First, your instructor should be a pretty good judge of your readiness for the checkride. You don't feel like you can fly perfectly, so you don't feel ready. This is normal but let me share a little secret. No pilots fly perfectly, especially on checkrides. We all strive for perfection and perhaps on occasion we get close. One of your instructors most important roles is to asses your readiness for the checkride, just as he or she judged your readiness to solo and to fly cross country.  Work hard, tell your instructor what you think, and ultimately listen to your instructor when he or she says you are ready.

QUESTION: I understand that I am required to use a checklist on the checkride. Do I have to use it all the time? Can I ask you to read me the checklist during normal testing?

ANSWER: You are correct. The PTS for every practical test lists Checklist Usage as a special emphasis area. It says something like "The applicant's use of the checklist shall be evaluated throughout the flight". The  paragraph goes on to say that there are times when use of the written checklist is inappropriate and may not be the safest way to complete the required tasks, for instance in a low altitude emergency. In such a case the PTS goes on to say that it would be appropriate for the applicant to complete the required items from memory and verify that they have been completed when circumstances allow.  The PTS is clear on your second question.  It states that in an aircraft where there is only one required crew member, that the applicant shall demonstrate single pilot competency. The PTS goes on to say that the examiner shall not assist or advise the applicant in any way, including handling charts or tuning radios. So this leaves no room for the examiner to read the checklist during normal testing.

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